8086 (211.♡.216.139)
2025년 11월 2일 PM 04:21 · 수정됨(11. 03. 01:13)
29일에 올라오던 내용이라 조금 늦은 감이 있긴 합니다만.. 이제서야 확실히 확인해서 올립니다.

이런 내용으로 트럼프가 APEC CEO 서밋 연설에서 이재명 대통령과 자신이 부정선거로 당선되지 않았다는 식의 발언을 했다는 내용이 돌더군요.
다모앙에는 1 2 3 등이 올라왔고, 이들은 더쿠에 29일 13:58에 게시된 이 글을 퍼온 것으로 보여집니다. (해당 게시물 사진은 이 영상 youtube.com/watch?v=Mq7p0B0RNWM 17:21 부분)

심지어는 30일 뉴스공장에서도 총수가 직접 언급합니다. ( youtube.com/watch?v=huw6B4Kr0dU 00:33:40 부분)
그런데, 실제 트럼프의 연설에서는 이와 같은 내용을 찾아볼 수 없습니다. (겸공 자료화면 부분은 여기에서 "00:15:33-00:15:57" 검색)

한국 선거 얘기가 아니라, 미국에서 자기가 이긴 얘기만 한 것으로 보여집니다. 이재명 대통령, 한국 선거에 대한 언급은 전혀 없습니다. ("too big to rig" 트럼프가 항상 하던 소리..)

소식을 퍼오기 전 사실 관계를 제대로 파악하는 게 좋겠습니다. 이번에는 저도 거의 당했네요.;;
언론사 기사 펌도 믿기 힘든 세상인데, 다른 커뮤에 올라온 글 스샷 펌은 더욱이요..
부정선거 음모론 퇴치는 좋지만 이런건 오히려 역공 당하기 딱 좋지 않나 싶습니다..ㅠ
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Ddiynbetterlife
25.11.02 · 59.♡.103.12
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금금강
25.11.02 · 144.♡.250.141
저런 개인 이기 주의자가 한국까지 와서 잼프 한국과 함께 하는 일들을 앞에 언급하면서 'WE' 라고하면 잼프랑 한국 포함으로 이해해도 되는겁니다. 딱히 논란 될게 아닌거고 가짜 뉴스도 아닌겁니다. 각자 이해하는 맥락이 다른거지요.
이런글은 기레기들이 좋아할 먹거리 같네요. -
88086
→ 금강 작성자
25.11.02 · 211.♡.216.139
저 부분에서 한국이나 잼프를 언급하는 내용이 안 보여서요..;;
> We won all seven swing states.
> We won in counties. They have counties, thousands of counties. And we were 2,700 compared to 500. 525, actually. So think of that. We were 2,750 compared to 525. And that's why the map shows all red. Red being Republican, not something else. Red being Republican.
여기서 'We'는 미국 공화당을 언급하는 게 명백하다고 생각합니다.
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(27:07)
But I blamed the Presidents. They allowed the shipbuilding industry to go away essentially in our country. We're going to bring it back very, very powerfully. When America thrives, our partners thrive, and our alliances thrive with all of the countries. The Indo-Pacific thrives, and that's good for all of us. And the entire world becomes safer and wealthy and greater than ever before. We get along with a lot of countries, we solved a lot of wars and a lot of problems, and that's all good for all of us. The extraordinary American turnaround that I've just described has been achieved not by just continuing business as usual back in Washington. If I didn't win the election and we won it in a landslide, we won by tremendous numbers. I had a whole thing too big… You have to say, too big to rig. We didn't want any rigging. We
Donald Trump (28:00):
We had these great polls going in. I said, "Don't believe the polls. Pretend we're one point down. Always assume we're one point down."
(28:06)
And everybody voted. We won in a landslide. We won all seven swing states. You have to win the swing states. And we won all seven, which is something that rarely happens. But to win the popular vote by millions, we won. We won everything you can win. The electoral college by a tremendous amount.
(28:22)
We won in counties. They have counties, thousands of counties. And we were 2,700 compared to 500. 525, actually. So think of that. We were 2,750 compared to 525. And that's why the map shows all red. Red being Republican, not something else. Red being Republican. Only a few people understand that one. -
Lled형광등
25.11.02 · 122.♡.232.23
총수도 몇 번이나 확인했어요, 전후 맥락으로 이재명 대통령과 본인을 언급하는 거라구요.
저 장면 하나로 해석하고 방송에 언급할 정도로 단순한 사람이 아닙니다.
게스트들도 몇 번이나 물어봤구요. -
88086
→ led형광등 작성자
25.11.02 · 211.♡.216.139
네, 저도 총수가 저 게시물 하나로 판단했을 거라고는 생각하지 않지만, 찾아볼 수 있는 내용으로는 그리 보여져서요.. 혹시 제가 글에 링크한 30일 겸공 00:33:40 부분 이외에 총수가 저 내용을 언급한 적이 또 있나요? -
Lled형광등
→ 8086
25.11.02 · 122.♡.232.23
저걸 언급한 날 몇 번 얘기합니다.
그 날 방송을 보시면 됩니다. -
88086
→ led형광등 작성자
25.11.03 · 211.♡.216.139
방송 다시 다 보고 왔습니다. 00:33:40, 00:50:50, 02:09:39 세 번 언급하는데 특별한 얘기는 없고 처음과 같은 얘기네요.
총수가 어떤 맥락을 파악해서 그리 설명했는지는 모르겠지만 적어도 방송에 언급되는 것은 저게 전부입니다.
직접 위에 링크된 트럼프 연설 전문을 봐도 그런 내용은 안 보이고요. 정확히 어떤 부분이 이재명 대통령을 언급하는 것인지..
이 부분만 읽어봐도 자명합니다.
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(26:18)
In fact, we're working with you on chip building where you're going to come in. We were the number one in the world during World War II. We produced a ship a day, can you believe it? Tankers and freighters, and this… A ship a day. And today we're not really building ships and we're going to start and we're going to have a very thriving shipbuilding industry. And we're working it with South Korea, very much so. In fact, some of the people in this room, they bought the Philadelphia Shipyard. I think it's going to be one of the most successful yards anywhere in the world. It's great, known for incredible production years ago and through bad management or bad thinking by people that were prior to me. I mean, you have to blame the president. You can give the president credit or blame the president.
(27:07)
But I blamed the Presidents. They allowed the shipbuilding industry to go away essentially in our country. We're going to bring it back very, very powerfully. When America thrives, our partners thrive, and our alliances thrive with all of the countries. The Indo-Pacific thrives, and that's good for all of us. And the entire world becomes safer and wealthy and greater than ever before. We get along with a lot of countries, we solved a lot of wars and a lot of problems, and that's all good for all of us. The extraordinary American turnaround that I've just described has been achieved not by just continuing business as usual back in Washington. If I didn't win the election and we won it in a landslide, we won by tremendous numbers. I had a whole thing too big… You have to say, too big to rig. We didn't want any rigging.
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"And the entire world becomes safer and wealthy and greater than ever before. We get along with a lot of countries, we solved a lot of wars and a lot of problems, and that's all good for all of us. The extraordinary American turnaround that I've just described has been achieved not by just continuing business as usual back in Washington. If I didn't win the election and we won it in a landslide, we won by tremendous numbers. I had a whole thing too big… You have to say, too big to rig. We didn't want any rigging." 여기서의 'we'는 모두 당연히 미국/공화당/트럼프지 저게 어떻게 '트럼프와 이재명'으로 해석이 되나요...? -
동동동동대문을열어라
25.11.02 · 122.♡.32.87
팩첵은 추천이요~!!
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APEC 트럼프 연설 전문입니다.
(27:07) 분부터 맥락을 보시면 됩니다.
https://www.rev.com/transcripts/apec-ceo-summit